The Best Player In A Trade

Sunday, January 31st, 2010

Mick Kern appears courtesy of Live From Wayne Gretzky’s

Can somebody please drive a broken composite stick through the heart of that saying that is trotted out every time a big trade is made in the National Hockey League?

You know the saying; whichever team ends up with the best player wins the trade.

Yeah, says who?

Sam Pollock, that’s who.  The legendary general manager of the Montreal Canadiens worked the phones at a time when it often seemed that half of his fellow GM’s in the league approached their job like it was a hobby, something they did for kicks after the dishes were done.

In this day-and-age, despite what the frothing fan base of a particular franchise may feel, every one of the thirty NHL general managers are top notch.  In this instantaneous over-informed society we live in, there is no way a GM not up to the job would last for any length of time.  They would very quickly be exposed.  Bob Pulford should thank his lucky stars he handled the job at a time when dinosaurs such as Bill Wirtz walked the Earth.

When two teams make a major trade, such as the one the Calgary Flames and Toronto Maple Leafs engineered on the last day of January, some hockey pundit somewhere will bring up that old Sam Pollock saying.

It’s often true; just think of the Montreal Canadiens moving disgruntled goaltender Patrick Roy (along with Mike Keane) to the newly minted Colorado Avalanche in exchange for goaltender Jocelyn Thibault, and forwards Andrei Kovalenko and Martin Rucinsky (December 6th, 1995).

But it’s not always the case.

Steve Simmons uttered the Sam Pollock phrase on “The Reporters” on TSN, citing defenceman Dion Phaneuf as the best player in the Flames/Maple Leafs deal.

If that is indeed correct, then why did Flames’ GM Darryl Sutter trade the best player?  Did Sutter bump his head during a weekend trip to Okotoks?

Of course not; Sutter appraised his team, what it needed and what could be sacrificed, all the time keeping in mind the underlying factor of the salary cap, and its often far-reaching implications.

Maple Leafs’ GM Brian Burke did the same thing to his team, and presto, we had a big trade to discuss.

On paper, or at least on a piece of paper dated January 31st, 2008, Phaneuf is without question the best player in the swap.  But that is a long two years ago.  Since then, Phaneuf has become everybody’s favourite whipping boy, and as the Flames were awash in expensive defenceman, it was pretty clear they would move the underachieving, at times selfish, rearguard.

Time will tell if Phaneuf is the best player in the deal.  Maybe big defenceman Keith Aulie will end up being the best player.  That’s the chance any team takes when it swaps warm bodies.

The Calgary Flames traded Brett Hull to the St. Louis Blues.  The young emerging sniper went on to a Hall-of-Fame career.  The Flames profited from that trade by winning the 1989 Stanley Cup.  Hull would not win a Cup in St. Louis.

The Golden Brett was the best player in the trade in hindsight.  Even at the time of the transaction, the Flames knew they were giving up a future superstar.  Still, who won that trade?

That March 7th, 1988 trade breaks down as such…Brett Hull, and Steve Bozak to the Blues for defenceman Rob Ramage and goaltender Rick Wamsley.  The Flames were upset that spring by the Edmonton Oilers (Wayne Gretzky’s final hurrah as an Oiler), but Ramage was a key part of the Redwood defence that helped the Flames win it all a year later.

Speaking of blockbusters, how about Gretzky going to the Los Angeles Kings during the summer of 1988?  It put hockey on the map, as the cliché goes, in many non-traditional markets in the U.S. (feel free to debate the pros and cons of that result), but the Kings never won the Stanley Cup.  They lost to Montreal in 1993, while the Oilers won the 1990 Cup, two seasons after trading The Great One.  As for Gretzky, he never won another Stanley Cup after 1988.

Who won that Gretzky trade?  Well, the Kings, even though they never won the Cup.  If anything, that trade was a harbinger of what the NHL would face during the 1990’s; the marginalization of small market teams and the resulting player moves necessistated by monetary concerns.

That August 9th, 1988 trade breaks down as such…Gretzky goes to the Kings along with Marty McSorley and Mike Krushelnyski.  To the Oilers goes Martin Gelinas, Jimmy Carson, 1st round draft picks in 1989, 1991, and 1993 and money.

Money, because Oilers’ owner Peter Pocklington was beginning to experience the first of his many business/legal headaches to follow.  “I’d Trade Him Again”, indeed.

Gelinas and Carson were key members of that 1990 Stanley Cup winning squad in Edmonton.

Even if either Phaneuf or Aulie outperforms the players sent to Southern Alberta in this latest blockbuster, when a GM makes a trade, he’s looking to improve his team, not worrying about the legacy of the trade.  If his team improves, either short-term for a playoff drive, or long-term, then the legacy issue usually takes care of itself.

Exhibit B about the foolhardiness of investing 100% faith in the Pollock saying also involves the Calgary Flames.

Flames fans were up-in-arms when Magic Kent Nilsson was traded to the Minnesota North Stars on June 15th, 1985.  Through that trade, the Flames received two draft picks, one which they used to grab Joe Nieuwendyk in the second round (27th overall) in the 1985 NHL Entry Draft.

When Nilsson hoisted the 1987 Stanley Cup with the hated Edmonton Oilers, many Flames’ fans decried the earlier trade, asking “Joe Who?” about Nieuwendyk, until Joe Who popped in 51 goals as a rookie in 1987-88.

Joe Who was part of the Flames 1989 Stanley Cup team, so when it came time for Calgary to move him along to the Dallas Stars (December 19th, 1995), they got Corey Millen, and some guy named Jarome Iginla.

Iginla had been the Stars 1st round draft pick in 1995, and all these years later, the captain of the Flames is a reasonable bet to make the Hockey Hall-of-Fame upon his retirement.

Still, some Flames’ fans grumbled about losing Joe Who to the Stars.  You’d think they’d have learned their lesson; the team that gets the “best player” in the trade doesn’t necessarily win the trade.

The Minnesota North Stars got Nilsson, but he won a Cup with the Oilers.  The Dallas Stars got Nieuwendyk, and he helped them win their only Cup, but they paid a heavy price in giving up Iginla.

Arguably, both teams won that trade.

Then there’s the June 13th, 1987 swap between the Quebec Nordiques and the Washington Capitals.  Dale Hunter, the heart and soul of the 1980’s Quebec Nordiques went to D.C., and coming back to Quebec was a draft choice that ended up being Joe Sakic.

(The actual trade was Gaeten Duchesne, Alan Haworth and a 1st round draft pick to Washington for Dale Hunter and Clint Malarchuk).

Perennial playoff failures, the Capitals got a shot-in-the-arm with the inclusion of Hunter on their roster, and they finally won a Game Seven in overtime when La Petite Peste scored on a breakaway against the Flyers’ Ron Hextall the following spring.

The Nordiques entered some very bleak years, before stockpiling high draft picks, and emerging as a young, promising team, led by Sakic.

Both teams can claim to have won that trade, all depending on how you view it.  The Capitals needed to change up their chemistry, and the Nords needed to rebuild.  Both succeeded thanks in large part to that trade.

In reality, the team that really won that trade was the Colorado Avalanche, but no-one had any inkling of that reality back when the Hunter trade was consummated.

A final note.  Even if Dion Phaneuf wins the Norris Trophy, the Leafs/Flames trade is not even close to being a duplicate of the January 2nd, 1992 trade that brought Doug Gilmour to Toronto, despite what the Toronto-based hockey media has been repeating over and over and over again.

The Flames and Maple Leafs exchanged five players each that day, with Gilmour being the prime asset.  He was a very good player with Calgary (and St. Louis before that), and thanks to a contract impasse with GM Doug Risebrough and the Flames’ brass, Gilmour was shipped out-of-town.

This transaction actually fits the Sam Pollock saying about which team wins a trade.

Even on that day, unless you were a diehard Flames fan, one could see the Leafs “won” that trade.  The inspired play of Gilmour, and the sizeable contributions of the likes of Jamie Macoun, and Ric Nattress, far out shadowed the meager contributions in Cowtown of the likes of Gary Leeman and Michel Petit.

I know, for I had a sprited argument with the Calgary cabbie who was dropping me off at the Calgary airport that evening, as I was returning to Toronto after spending Christmas with the family.  He was convinced that the Gilmour trade would put the Flames over the top, as they were getting 50-goal scorer Leeman.

Leeman would win his only Stanley Cup two seasons later as a role player with the 1993 Montreal Canadiens.  His stay in Calgary was brief and uneventful.

The Toronto Maple Leafs and GM Cliff Fletcher won that trade easily.  It helped revive, on-ice, that franchise, and set up the Leafs to enjoy, for the most part, a rather successful decade.  In both 1993, and 1994, the Leafs were legitimate Cup contenders.

That was a trade that shook up the NHL.  The current Flames/Maple Leafs trade only shakes up those two teams.

- Mick Kern

Mick Kern appears courtesy of Live From Wayne Gretzky’s

Wayne On Loss To Flames

Sunday, February 15th, 2009

I won’t bore you with the gory details. I won’t preach. I won’t try and call this a comeback bid that fell short. I won’t because it really wasn’t.  Just a listening task for you…..

Check out what the coach had to say about this loss to Calgary. Listen carefully at about the 3 minute and ten second mark of his post game press conference.

Click to listen:

I think it says it all.

Edmonton awaits on Monday night.  And we will see you on Fox Sports Arizona.

- Todd

FSN Arizona & Phoenix Coyotes Television/Radio Host
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Post Game With Coyotes

Sunday, January 18th, 2009

Shhhhhh … I DID manage to get into the room in Calgary last night and was able to move about without those blackberry devices … So, some bonus comments from those on the ice: Peter Mueller, JOVO and David Hale.

Player comments:

This process of learning how to win is clearly taking over.  It’s happening right before our eyes.
And they know it.

- Todd

FSN Arizona & Phoenix Coyotes Television/Radio Host
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Big Win In Calgary

Sunday, January 18th, 2009

First, let me apologize for the audio hits. It’s a brave new world of technology out there and those of us working post game locker rooms are about to rebel against those who stand by us with blackberry’s. Every call, text or e mail creates a wave that disrupts our audio recorders.  It is maddening.

That said … listen carefully … because you are about to hear one very happy and proud head coach. Frankly, I wasn’t sure what I saw the other night in Vancouver.  The Canucks are in a free fall. A tough gauge. Calgary is not. One of the best in the West and on home ice.  And, for the second straight game the Coyotes set the tone early physically and then were rewarded by scoring first.

And, most impressive to me? The way that they responded each and every time that Calgary cut the lead to one.

Coach Gretzky:

It won’t be easy tonight. The Anderson celebration should have the place rocking, BUT, it’s scheduled for before warm ups. Maybe, just maybe, that will help calm the storm.  Pay careful attention to the man on the Coyotes bench in the first period … It will be John Muckler. An idea from Wayne and a great touch. More to come on that…

Hope you are climbing aboard!!!  See you later on Fox Sports Arizona.

- Todd

FSN Arizona & Phoenix Coyotes Television/Radio Host
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Iron Mike Keenan

Saturday, January 17th, 2009

Wayne said it all about tonight’s game here in Calgary. “It’s gonna be a man’s game.” Indeed. At the very least, you know what to expect when you play the Calgary Flames. However, what do the Calgary Flames expect from the Coyotes???

After you check out Wayne’s pre game scrum from the Saddedome this morning, take a listen to what Flames Head Coach Mike Keenan had to say about how he sees the lay of the land in the NHL and where the Phoenix Coyotes fall in it.  Then, check us out tonight on Fox Sports Arizona as the roadie rolls on!

Coach Gretzky:

Coach Keenan:

See ya Saturday night in Calgary on Fox Sports Arizona.

- Todd

FSN Arizona & Phoenix Coyotes Television/Radio Host
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Kids Don’t Know Any Better

Wednesday, November 5th, 2008

I am always impressed when a team finds a way to bounce back from a difficult defeat. Saturday night’s loss to the Wild, at home, was a difficult defeat (just listen to Wayne’s post game presser from that night!). Well, last night in Calgary the Phoenix Coyotes could have, and on most night’s, probably would have, collapsed after surrendering an early goal to the Flames. But it didn’t happen.

I asked Derek Morris afterwards why it didn’t happen, and he said, “it was the kids. They just don’t know any better.” Morris and Ed Jovanovski and Steven Reinprecht all scored their first goals of the season. Shane Doan continued his torrid pace. Ilja Bryzgalov was outstanding and Garth Murray provided some grit and fire in his first game as a Coyote.

It was an impressive game to watch. A gutsy, come from behind win on the road. The kind of win that puts hair on your chest, if you know what I mean. So it’s off the Vancouver. Gretzky has a difficult decision to make regarding young Kyle Turris who was a healthy scratch tonight. He was told he will play tomorrow in his home town. But what do you do when you are coming off a win? Do you change the lineup? Traditionally, you don’t fix something that doesn’t need to be fixed.

We’ll have the decision and the rationale behind it, when it comes down. Here’s Wayne’s post game remarks from the Saddledome:

See you tomorrow on AZ TV and I’ll talk to you on the Coyotes Radio network starting 30 minutes before face-off.

- Todd

FSN Arizona & Phoenix Coyotes Television/Radio Host
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Frustrating Loss

Sunday, October 26th, 2008

I have a chore for you…..listen to Wayne’s pre Calgary comments.  Look at the score sheet from last night, and then listen to his post game comments.

Post game:

You don’t need a visual to feel the frustration level.

- Todd

FSN Arizona & Phoenix Coyotes Television/Radio Host
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Getting Ready For Iginla

Saturday, October 25th, 2008

A hilarious line about Jarome Iginla! And, a thought provoking comment near the end about the current state of fighting in the NHL.  Should be fun tonight.

Listen:

The Coyotes did a nice job on Ovechkin on Thursday. Can they do it again, tonight?

See you on AZTV!

- Todd

FSN Arizona & Phoenix Coyotes Television/Radio Host
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Home Ice Means Plenty

Monday, October 6th, 2008

What are the keys to winning on home ice?

You would think that the home ice and crowd would be an enormous advantage wouldn’t you?

Why do so many teams struggle on home ice?

I have a few thoughts on this subject as we prepare for the 2008-09 NHL regular season.

Last season in the Eastern Conference, Carolina was the only team that DID NOT make the playoffs with more points than the eighth-place Boston Bruins on home ice. The Hurricanes had an excellent 24-13-4 record on home ice, good for 52 points. They finished one game below .500 on the road to miss the playoffs by just two points.

In the Western Conference, the Edmonton Oilers had 47 points on home ice, going 23-17-1, and missing the postseason (along with the Blackhawks) by only three points. Nashville snuck into the eighth spot with three more points on home ice than the Oilers.

You might think the power play at home would be a huge factor, right? It didn’t work out quite that way as only 10 of the 16 playoff teams ended the regularseason in the Top 16. New Jersey and Calgary were ranked 28th and 29th overall in PP % on home ice, yet both made the playoffs.

Tampa Bay was fourth and Los Angeles was fifth overall in home PP % , yet neither were close to making the postseason and, in fact, picked first and second overall in this year’s draft.

Penalty killing at home saw the Bruins dead last at only 74.7%, yet they finished eighth and got in. Washington was 25th and Pittsburgh was 27th overall.

Clearly gone are the days of an intimate home building with crowds standing above you and ice dimensions suited to your team’s style of play. Every building is eerily similar, so the only advantage a team has is how many fans are in their building and how supportive they are.

Here are my keys to having a home-ice advantage.

1) Goaltending early in games. If your goalie gives up a soft, momentum-deflating goal early in a hockey game, especially in a non-traditional hockey market, the fans really get frustrated and the players feel it. Your goalie has to show everyone he has the presence to lead, especially early.

2) Every team has to have a line that bangs and crashes and gets pucks in deep, forechecks hard and energizes the bench and the crowd. The visiting team has to come into your rink knowing that they have to survive the first 10 minutes of the game, if they want to have a chance. The home team has to have players that are relentless on the puck and keep the energy high.

3) The “D” has to have the confidence to close gaps. There is nothing like seeing a road team easily skate through the neutral zone, gain the blueline untouched, and score an easy goal on your home ice. That is as deflating as any one thing. When the forwards hustle back and the “D” are standing up and playing physically, then the fans and the bench and the momentum from the home side can take any hope away from a team on the road trying to win in your building.

There is no question that athletes have large egos and love the fans and the noise and the adulation both on and off the ice. Having a jam packed home building can only help out every player. There is nothing like having the pressure and the expectations from your own crowd as they will push you through the tough times in a game.

That being said, not every building is full, so you have to find a way to get it done. The points I made earlier are the keys to getting off to a great start and maintaining that momentum to win hockey games on home ice and getting you team into the postseason.

For gretzky.com, I’m Darren Pang